Maybe they can get set it up how it was really difficult for Boyka to get to the top (of becoming the undisputed champion in the prison for UD2) that he just becomes arrogant after his accomplishments in a prequel (hence his downfall in UD2)

I think the problem showing Boyka struggle with his rise to the top of the prison circuit would take away his dominance in UD2.

In UD2 he states that he has never lost and his character seems to never be challenged...until Chambers shows up. I think it is important to show that Chambers was the first person who really challenged him in the prison circuit.

Well, the record Boyka has when UD2 starts is that he has 34 consecutive fights without defeat - but that doesn't necessarily have to mean he had any defeats outside the ring (because those outside ring-fights wouldn't be "formally" recorded).

Maybe they can have him lose some of the street-fights like the Iceman has in UD2 (before he actually fights Boyka, I notice that he has several fights, but Chambers won all of them)

I would have to rewatch to see if they ever state he is undefeated, but even so, I think having a prequel that shows him getting beat would still take away from his character in UD2.

I want to believe that the reason he was so over confident against Chambers (Beat you using fists only) was because he was so dominant that he felt no one would ever be able to beat him. If Boyka had suffered defeats before he fought Chambers in UD2, I do not think he would have been so arrogant.

Now the Boyka we will see in UD3 is coming off a loss, so I can't wait to see his personality for this flick.

I still standby wanting to see a prequel that explains his martial arts training and how he ended up in prison.

Well, arrogance does not exist in any person right from the beginning. It's when a person gets much experience and feels like he's in the comfort zone - that's when he becomes cocky, arrogant, and thinking he's unbeatable.

I doubt that Boyka was ever confidant or arrogant right from the beginning, I think his arrogance grew as he was winning all those fights without any defeats (maybe around about after 10~20 wins, he started to get confidant, which then turned to arrogance).

Also, for any fighter in mma these days (K-1, UFC etc...), their first ever fight is always one of the most difficult experience they get (whether they win the match or not), and I am doubtful that Boyka won all of his previous matches with breeze (to me I think some of his matches he won easily like those 2 matches in UD2, but some others, although he won eventually, had more of a difficult battle)

The thing is although I do want a prequel movie and support they explore the origins of the character, I still want the prequel to be a mma movie. I'm not so sure that I want to see the view that Boyka was a gangster (although the idea could become interesting)

i think the no defeats was based in prison and not in the outside world! boyka thought he was unstoppable in prison. i think they could pull off that he had defeats in his past which only made him more stronger!!!

id like to know where his relgious background came from, also i like the fact he got pissed off from the 1st fight that they poisoned chambers!!

well hopefully this one will make bucket loads like the 2nd to warrant another! as scott could totally change the franchise and turn into his own

All good thoughts. I guess it will all be speculation until they give us an answer.

Any thoughts on Scott remaking "Bloodsport?"

i think scott would decline it, as its jean claude's franchise!! also you cant really top the 1st one as its a classic. i think scott wants to stem away from the van damme comparisons!!

I can understand Scott's reasoning behind not doing Bloodsport.

Tell Scott (although his people probably won't allow him to take unsolicited ideas) that one of his fans has an original martial arts movie I'd love for him to take ten minutes to look at.

The forum is probably not the appropriate outlet to do this, but I am determined to eventually get this concept in front of Scott and/or Isaac as I have been sitting on this for 2 years and always think of Scott when I think of the lead role.

I am sure he gets people all the time offering him scripts, but deep down I would hope that maybe he would be curious to know if this idea might be worth a glance.

JJ Perry should tell Isaac Florentine to take a look at this thread and start writing a storyline asap. Lost of good stuff here.

Thanks for the compliment Bambino.

Let's get them on here!!!

After seeing Ninja assassin, I thought maybe a prequel could take a few pointers of how the story is structured in that movie - have Boyka as main character with flashbacks showing his early childhood, his teenage years, and the current events/situations which leads to UD2?

I must admit, Ninja Assassin was about 100 times better than I was betting it would be. What's interesting to me is that it's story structure is similar to Batman Begins (i.e. the hero travels to Japan, learns the ways of the ninja, eventually becomes enemies with his teacher, etc.) and it's definitely better than so much of the other crap that makes it into theaters these days. It's probably safe to assume that Boyka had a less than close relationship with his father, and he's probably the kind of kid who grew up watching old school kung fu movies and wishing that he could be just like the guys he worshiped as a kid. Also, he was probably bullied in school alot, and one day decided that he was done letting people walk all over him and vowed to become the greatest martial artist who ever lived.

Also, I've been kind of wondering what Boyka's nationality really is. If we assume that he was born the same year as Scott, 1976, that would mean that Kiev was still part of the Soviet Union up until the 90's then Ukraine separated from Russia. I'm kind of confused, is Boyka Russian or Ukrainian?

he is russian and his brother is ivan drago