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 Post subject: Where will the series go from here?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:40 pm 
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I know this is still long way away, and I may be ahead of myself here, but after Undisputed 3 comes out (which will be one heck of kickass film I'll bet!) what will happen to the series?

The series till now always had the villian of the previous movie becoming the hero in the next movie:

Undisputed - Monroe Hutchen defeating George 'Iceman' Chambers at the end

Undisputed II - George 'Iceman' Chambers defeating Yuri Boyka at the end

Undisputed III - Yuri Boyka will most likely defeat Dolor at the end


Will there be another movie after this? Then who will be the protagonist? Somehow I have a feeling if there is another movie, it might be unlikely that Boyka will be in it, given the trend of the series. Don't think it's a problem with Ninja if Issac and Scott decide to make a sequel (which I'd love to see if I like it as much as Undisputed 2) because Scott's the lead in that movie.

Maybe they can make a Boyka spinoff movie?

Also how is Marko Zaror's English and acting? I have not seen him in any films (first heard about him in this forum), so I'm wondering if he has the acting chops to take the lead should they continue the franchise with him as the protagonist in UD IV


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i think it will depend on how much this film will make! i think it will make a bucket load. if it does then im sure another sequel would be offered! also thats dependin on what work scott will get as the film could help him even further in his career.

id prefer a spinoff but undisputed has now gained a good name for the franchise so the name itself can earn some cash.

i dont think there will be a 4 with Scott i think it will be someone else! Scott will hopefully go onto bigger things, if not then it can be something to fall back on it could be like scotts rocky films lol

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I hope that after U3 there'll be alot of awful sequels without Scott in the movie. Then a few years later, perhaps ten Scott says they're gonna make a sequel to U3 which is gonna be the real sequel. That would be fun

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 Post subject: Re: Where will the series go from here?
PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 10:44 am 
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I think rather than using the continuous pattern of having previous antagonist becoming the consequent film's protagonist, I'd like to see spin-off movies with Boyka in it.

Good example would be Danny Trejo's Machete character. His character was the supporting character in the Spy Kids 1,2, & 3 and likely 4 too (never seen any of sky kids films, but I know this) before getting his own R-rated movie Machete with himself as the lead (which is coming out this year).

I would like to see something similar happen with Boyka's story (assuming that he survives the events of UD3). He is such a popular character with the fans (and it would be a shame to throw such a good character away), and Scott also loves playing the character, and Scott and Isaac enjoy working together on films.

Maybe they should have the title like "Boyka" to say this is sort of like a reboot, but still same part of Undisputed universe continuing Boyka's path to become the "best fighter in the world" as he claimed in UD2 or keep the name Undisputed (since it has name value), but get rid of number system (e.g. just name it "Undisputed: XYZ" (XYZ can be any small titles like last man standing, redemption etc) to make it more fresh (not exactly a reboot, but still says it's fresh from the previous takes) :)


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 Post subject: Re: Where will the series go from here?
PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 11:00 am 
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Personally, I'd just like to see them keep going with the pattern they have now. Marko Zaror is an incredible martial artist, and I'd love to see him as the star of an Isaac Florentine movie. I have no idea who could make a convincing villain for him, though.


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 Post subject: Re: Where will the series go from here?
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I don't know how exactly you do a spinoff of the Undisputed series with the main character of the third movie, but in either case, I don't think that this should be the end for Boyka. He's just to engaging of a character and too much aof a badass for this to be his last movie. I really, really want to find out about Boyka's past, how he became involved with martial arts, how he ended up in prison, etc

Also, the thing about Boyka is that, he may be the villain in UD2, but while he's not exactly a straight arrow like Casey was in "Ninja", you really get the sense that he isn't an evil character either. He has a very strict honor code, he prays before every fight, and he'll never ever take a fight unless he and his opponent are on a level playing field. UD2 was really unique in that it took what should have been just another straight-to-DVD sequel to a big budget Hollywood movie minus the original stars, and made an instant martial arts classic that deserves comparison with "Enter the Dragon", "Bloodsport", and just about any other classic martial arts movie you could think of. However, what's also unique about it is just how much Boyka stays in your memory. We actually have a situation where one of the summer's most anticipated movies is a straight-to-DVD sequel, and the only conceivable reason I can think of that UD3 is going straight-to-DVD is because UD2 did.


For me. Boyka having just one opprtunity to have the spotlight all to himself just doesn't do him justice.


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 Post subject: Re: Where will the series go from here?
PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:19 pm 
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While I was hoping for a prequel as well at first, Scott said in his most recent interview that he wasn't too keen on prequels (not just for Undisputed, but for movies in general). However, he said he'd love to reprise the Boyka role in any possible sequels (he said he'd love to get Boyka to Thailand).


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 Post subject: Re: Where will the series go from here?
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If the dvds and blue rays sells well , than I want UNDISPUTED 4. Boykas Back and his out of money and gets an offer to fight in Thailand , So he says yes and the party BEGINS once agin.


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 Post subject: Re: Where will the series go from here?
PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 1:05 am 
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Yeah going to thailand would be awesome heres some possible titles.

Undisputed: Boyka's Revenge

Undisputed: The Final Chapter


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 Post subject: Re: Where will the series go from here?
PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 3:15 am 
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Kissco wrote:
Yeah going to thailand would be awesome heres some possible titles.

Undisputed: Boyka's Revenge

Undisputed: The Final Chapter


Undisputed: The Final Chapter Doesent sound bad :)

So he goes to Thailand and there waits Chung Li , Thong Po and Van Damme , LOL ( Joking )

But seriously Thailand would be a good choice.


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 Post subject: Re: Where will the series go from here?
PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 7:10 pm 
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i think they cant go in time before u2 as scott look much older even in u3! if u look in eyes and skin etc he just look older...


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 Post subject: Re: Where will the series go from here?
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The challenge I see with Boyka going to Thailand would be that he is a MMA fighter, and now wants to compete in Muay Thai which is just one aspect of MMA. It almost seems like a step back.

Finding the right motivation and scenario for Boyka to fight will be a huge challenge to not make part 4 seem like cheap sequel. There needs to be a good story.


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 Post subject: Re: Where will the series go from here?
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Boyka is such a great character, it would be a shame to do a another Undisputed sequel without him. Allmost everybody I know, who love's U2, want's to see Boyka as the leading character of the Undisputed serie's (a few at least)! And I think, Boyka should be the main character in Undisputed 4 aswell. Like Scott said in an interview, he would love to see Boyka going to Thailand. So does me! They could make something like flashback's in U4, how Boyka start's remembering how he got into MA and how he ended up in prison. That would make a great story, if they made it correctly (which I'm sure, they would)! My dreamstory would be something like, Boyka start's traveling through asia. During that traveling, he could have flashback's about his childhood, his MA training and how he ended up in prison. It should be dramatic. Than he arrive's in Thailand, where he want's to find a regular job or something. Some guy's are trying to rob him, he beat's the hell out of them, in front of some mafia-boss, who organize's illegal street fighting. That mafia boss should be fascinated about Boyka and his abilities, so he offer's him to be a part of an street fighting tournament. Boyka should say no at the beginning. After that he start's working in a chinese restaurant or something, where he meet's a beautiful asian girl/women. They start to know each other, to like each other. But Boyka need's to learn how to love. He may have problem's to show love at the beginning. The mafia boss is trying to bring Boyka to the tournament again, but he's still denied the offer. The henchmen are trying to attack Boyka, but Boyka defeat them all. So the mafia boss is even more fascinated of Boyka and he believe's that Boyka could defeat the main street fighting champion (who should be a bad ass Muay Thai fighter). In the time, where the mafia boss is thinking about how to bring Boyka to the tournament, Boyka and those asian girl are starting to feel something like love to each other. When the mafia boss finds out that Boyka has a relationship with that girl, he decide's to kidnap her, so he can blackmail Boyka, if he doesn't start to fight in the tournament and if he doesn't win the tournament, his girlfriend would die. So Boyka has no other choice, than to fight again. Of course he defeat's all of the protagonist's. Before the final fight, his girlfriend got tortured and raped by the mafia boss himself. When the final fight start's, Boyka seem's to lose against the Muay Thai fighter. During the fight, Boyka somehow finds out what happened to his girlfriend. And yeah, the end should be very dramatic. This is just a rough idea of the story I have.


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 Post subject: Re: Where will the series go from here?
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Here's a thought - Wouldn't Boyka going to Thailand be the perfect opportunity for Scott to work with this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImSDVhW6Aho


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 Post subject: Re: Where will the series go from here?
PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 9:49 pm 
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SlamGrinder wrote:
Boyka is such a great character, it would be a shame to do a another Undisputed sequel without him. Allmost everybody I know, who love's U2, want's to see Boyka as the leading character of the Undisputed serie's (a few at least)! And I think, Boyka should be the main character in Undisputed 4 aswell. Like Scott said in an interview, he would love to see Boyka going to Thailand. So does me! They could make something like flashback's in U4, how Boyka start's remembering how he got into MA and how he ended up in prison. That would make a great story, if they made it correctly (which I'm sure, they would)! My dreamstory would be something like, Boyka start's traveling through asia. During that traveling, he could have flashback's about his childhood, his MA training and how he ended up in prison. It should be dramatic. Than he arrive's in Thailand, where he want's to find a regular job or something. Some guy's are trying to rob him, he beat's the hell out of them, in front of some mafia-boss, who organize's illegal street fighting. That mafia boss should be fascinated about Boyka and his abilities, so he offer's him to be a part of an street fighting tournament. Boyka should say no at the beginning. After that he start's working in a chinese restaurant or something, where he meet's a beautiful asian girl/women. They start to know each other, to like each other. But Boyka need's to learn how to love. He may have problem's to show love at the beginning. The mafia boss is trying to bring Boyka to the tournament again, but he's still denied the offer. The henchmen are trying to attack Boyka, but Boyka defeat them all. So the mafia boss is even more fascinated of Boyka and he believe's that Boyka could defeat the main street fighting champion (who should be a bad ass Muay Thai fighter). In the time, where the mafia boss is thinking about how to bring Boyka to the tournament, Boyka and those asian girl are starting to feel something like love to each other. When the mafia boss finds out that Boyka has a relationship with that girl, he decide's to kidnap her, so he can blackmail Boyka, if he doesn't start to fight in the tournament and if he doesn't win the tournament, his girlfriend would die. So Boyka has no other choice, than to fight again. Of course he defeat's all of the protagonist's. Before the final fight, his girlfriend got tortured and raped by the mafia boss himself. When the final fight start's, Boyka seem's to lose against the Muay Thai fighter. During the fight, Boyka somehow finds out what happened to his girlfriend. And yeah, the end should be very dramatic. This is just a rough idea of the story I have.




The finale of the concept with Boyka's girlfriend getting raped and then him finding out and defeating the villain is pretty much identical to the movie Kickboxer.

The girlfriend/family member being kidnapped and the hero being forced to fight has be done to death. I vote to stay away from that.


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