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AmaravilBoyka
Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 42
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:02 am Post subject: A question from loco |
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First nice to see you in our forum and can ask from you directly…
There is a question in my mind for month and always persecute me. It is about Uri Boyka and the final fight in undisputed2… since the movie begun with a cool fight and all of fights in film are awesome I don’t know why we see in last fight an illogical ending… of course this is my opinion and I respect to other's ideas…in round 3 we see that the old man says something to chamber and suddenly everything change!!! Music begin and Chamber go to ring and beat him black and blue!!! Without any kicking ass which he should get from Boyka…please ignore me but it look like ballywood and Indian teenager flicks… please tell us the reason of that. Since I am into Boyka too much I love to know the planning and designing of that fight. Also you guys tell your opinions about that…
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Boyka

Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 596
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:24 am Post subject: |
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As far as I know the endfight should have been longer and michael should get more of a beating....they decided different..I don´t know why..I think it was a mix of time, money and michael not looking to get too lucky...
I don´t know if loco has some extra rehersal material like from TS...but since he said he will post it, I am really curious about that... _________________ "..che can learn every fucking thing che woants, che´s still noat going to leave this ring allive.."

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loco
Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 75
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:34 am Post subject: |
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amaravilboyka, i read you question and it persecute me!!!! i just watched the final fight again on you tube again because your question bothered me. first of all let me say that the shooting budget of ud 2 was under $ 1 million, and we only had 28 days to shoot it. the fact that we got as much fighting in the movie we got was a mirracle. and i was very pleased with the final product, i thought the action was solid. so bottom line is that we did not have time for more, we could have done some cheasy montage stuff to extend it, but then you would be complaining about that. so i have an idea, why dont you produce a movie, you can hire scott to star, issac to direct, and i will choreograph, and we will make the fights as long as you want them!! when do we start boss? i am available after june 4th.
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Boyka

Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 596
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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Loco...I think it was easy to misunderstand amaravilboyka and if I wouldn´t know him I would have understood it the same way...but I guess or I am rather shure that his question was meant a bit different...
I know him and he watches UD2 24/7, like me...he loves the movie the fights, but most of all he loves Uri Boykas charactere...and he never got over it that Boyka lost...the simple fact that we live in a hollywood world and that the good guys win...wasn´t good enough for him...and he didn´t got why chambers could beat boyka instead of Boyka killing him with an insane aerial kick....thats it...sounds strange but that is it!
Don´t worry you did an insane fight! nothing to bother and UD2 is gold even if you don´t look at the budget...if you do...its even more than that...
Amaravilboyka jsut wanted to know if there where thoughts of makeing th fight a closer call...but I guess he will be lucky again after Boyka got his redemption in UD3.... _________________ "..che can learn every fucking thing che woants, che´s still noat going to leave this ring allive.."

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Nofear
Joined: 30 Oct 2007 Posts: 278
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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If you read amaravilboyka's post and look at the reasoning behind it, he is actually complimentary.
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bengy
Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Posts: 61
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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i talk to amaravilboyka,too.loco,he is obsessed with the last fight from ud2,wich is ok but he would have liked more that boyka wins the last fight.i know that from the directors point of view that would have not been possible,because mjwhite is the main caracther so we hope that Scott will kick some ass being the main caracther in UNDISPUTED 3.dont go and get upset,now.amaravilboyka didnt mean to question your coreo{wich is great especially in ud2}.
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AmaravilBoyka
Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 42
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Loco…I see that you misunderstand of my question… I didn’t have any disgracing purpose… I was very happy that can ask questions from you directly… I never had a feeling to a character like this one until now. Thanks to my friend (Boyka) that explained about it and he knows what I mean exactly… I know this is kind of strange and I think I am the only one that ask this question and is sad to see a villain character defeated!!!! I liked a closer fight than this… at least not an easy defeat… undisputed2 is my first one favorite movie and as my friend said … nothing to bother and UD2 is gold even if you don´t look at the budget...if you do...its even more than that... but I just mentioned to round 3 in last fight and it is clear that you didn’t got my mean right.
apart from your wisecrack!!! I have to say that I justlove choreography … fight designing is my favorite job and actually I'm very much into it!
Also I hope see Boyka win all over in undisputed3 and can't wait to see that… so loco… can I ask you if I have more questions or…?
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loco
Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 75
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:40 am Post subject: |
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amaravilboyka [boss], sorry for the wisecrack, i appologise, lets be friends. you are right, the final fight should have favored boyka more before it turned, and it should have been longer, time was our biggest enemy, i can assure you that ud3 will not have this flaw! YOU have my promise.. if you are into fight choreo. please send me some of your work, i would like to see it, if your good, maybe you could come work with me. i am always looking for new talent. you soul look at www.reelkick.com i work with theese guys alot. i also work with the zero g guys alot, and another one to watch for is www.thestuntpeople.com i have not worked with them, but they are doing great work! these 3 teams are examples of young action directors and performers from america, have a look. sorry didnt mean to be a jackass.
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Boyka

Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 596
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:48 am Post subject: |
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You would really watch our stuff if we send you fightcoreos we do at home??? Wow!!! You are awesome!!! _________________ "..che can learn every fucking thing che woants, che´s still noat going to leave this ring allive.."

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AmaravilBoyka
Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 42
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Wow!! Loco… it will be great if I get instructions from you… well, I have to say I am one of the zero guys if you meant the guys who they are beginner. Unfortunately choreography isn’t familiar here… I don’t know if there is some college or somewhere to teach that in U.S or Europe. Since I'm so far away from U.S I don’t know anything about that. If there was a college for that in our country surely I would to go there but as I said here is a wrong place to something like that.
Undisputed3 will be great! after watching un2 I wish to was in set in of film!!!!!!!!! And un3 too!!!!!!
I have no possibility and no instruction so far but hope you guide me about this. by the way can I talk about this with you by a pm?
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Nofear
Joined: 30 Oct 2007 Posts: 278
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Loco what do you look for when viewing audition tapes?
I mean do you go for the good looking type like Scott, or the fast moving like Tony Jaa or the big bulk type like Nathan Jones?
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loco
Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 75
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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it depends for what job, for example if i am taking a team of stunt guys, i would be looking for solid martial artists, guys who can rig and ride wire work, can do high work, fire work, and know how to film and edit, plus they have to be tough, i don't have any pussys on my crew, they earn their $ when they work for me. thats how i came up, so thats what i expect from my team. sam hargrave and daniel stevens are the guys i brought to sydney with me, scott will be fighting them. i am in a group called stunts unlimited www.stuntsunlimited.com check it out, i am looking for guys like this. i prefer to work with martial artists because we speak the same language, and i find we have a better work ethic than non ma stuntmen.
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Nofear
Joined: 30 Oct 2007 Posts: 278
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Thats a pretty good site mate - you look like Tarantino
Well, that counts me out......
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Boyka

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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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well me aswell...
you have no need for a 200 pound mma fighter with lots of background in traditional martial arts....and a mixture of realistic fighting skills and flashy movie stuff, who lives in austria (wich would make bulgaria easy to travel) and who would work for food (wich doesn´t mean I am cheap  ) if he could get some asswhooping by Scott in UD3??? No...?! Ok just asking...  _________________ "..che can learn every fucking thing che woants, che´s still noat going to leave this ring allive.."

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AmaravilBoyka
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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